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Wednesday, April 4, 2007

CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST SALARIES

Though a Clinical Psychologist could either hold a Master's in Clinical Psychology or a Doctoral Degree such as PhD or Psy. D, I am going to keep this post limited to the Doctoral guys - why ? Coz' only the Clinical Psychologists with Doctoral education tags are allowed to get a license to setup psychological therapy practices.

Note: This DOES NOT mean that psychologists with just a Masters degree cannot practice - they can, but need to work under supervision of a licensed psychologist, this is almost comparable to the scenario of physician assistants not able to practice without supervision of a licensed physician.


So what kind of dough do licensed clinical psychologists earn ? Here are some annual, mid-career, median incomes at representative cities.

  • Houston, TX: $80,000/-
  • Los Angeles, CA: $88,000/-
  • Miami, FL: $78,000/-
  • New York, NY: $93,000/-
  • Seattle, WA: $86,500/-


National Average = 75,000/-


Clinical Psychologists with just a Master's Degree may earn an average of 45,000 to 50,000 or more depending on experience and managerial skills.


Q. If psychologists treat the mind and so do the psychiatrists - what's the difference ?

Here are some:

1. Clinical Psychologists are not trained as Medical doctors, they are not MDs or DOs (psych-ology is the study of the mind, while psych-iatry is the treatment of the mind) . How long does it take to be a licensed Clinical Psychologist? Following a 2-year Masters degree, the doctoral programs in psychology take 5 to 6 intense research years to complete followed by 1 to 2 years of internships / Residency and/or supervised practice before being eligible for a state practice licensure.

  • Average Stipend / Salary During Clinical Psychology Residency : $30,000 to 35,000/- a year
2. Clinical Psychologists cannot prescribe medical drugs, while the psychiatrists can, and in fact prefer to - why ? I read an article that insurance companies pay the psychiatrists more for treatment rather than just psychotherapy - (a wrong incentive ?)

3. Clinical Psychologists earn much lower than what the psychiatrists do - compare the above figures with Psychiatrist Incomes in USA, unless of course you are Lorrie Rickman Stone.

Not heard about Lorrie ? She is a clinical psychologist who received a massive 70,000$ raise in her 2007 salary as the mental health program director for the Department of Human Services. Her salary went up rrom $116,460 to $186,000, when a special salary class was created just for her. She is also the wife of senator Emil' Jones and the enormous income raise came AFTER her hubby was sworn in as the Senate president. Note my stress my 'after' he he he...year clout works in American. As this article reports:
"She makes more than the governor or the agency director and is among the agency's two-dozen highest-paid employees - all physicians"


Yet Lorrie makes peanuts when you compare her with the highest paid Psychologist in America - Who's that ? Of Course, Dr. Phil McGraw - better known just as Dr. Phil on Television who makes more than 40 Million Dollars a year - well, he's a fine outlier who has merged media and psycholigical counseling to make a financially rewarding concoction. Recently though, he was in the bad news for trying to force himself on a psychologically disturbed Britney Spears and bring her on his show. Many accused him of trying to "jump on the Britney cash wagon".

You may come across some psychiatrists or other MDs, as I did, who openly or secretly do not approve of Clinical psychologists calling themselves 'Doctors' or using the 'Dr.' tags front of their names..... Well, that's one of those 'never-ending-debate' kinda topics - I strongly believe psychologists have an important place in the domain of mental healing.


There is another class of Psychologists - counseling psychology, which I shall cover later. For the moment, enjoy other areas on this blog :-)


And it amuses me to no end to read about this Psychologist who called his patient an idiot.




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Comments on "CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST SALARIES"

 

Blogger Becca said ... (12/02/2007) : 

Regarding your statement about a debate that MDs dont want psychologist to call themselves "Dr." that is ricidulous. A PhD is a DOCTOR of philosphy and is actually the highest degree one can obtain. The misconception is just that MD is higher due to them earning more. Wow. An MD is more of a professional and less then a doctor in tradtiion sense.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12/05/2007) : 

Hi digidoc,

I have an urgent question. I did not get any inteviews this year. I am planning to join this masters program. Is it possible that by the time of next years match if I am done with some courses in clinical psycho my chances in getting psychiatry residensy increases? What are the chances of getting a job after doing this masters. Since I am an img I will need visa sponsorship for getting a job.
I am highly confused, I dont want to pour some of my saved money in a thing which never pays me off in any way.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks.

 

Blogger David Eddie said ... (5/11/2008) : 

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with doing their psychology doctorate in the UK and practicing in the US. I have researched the requirements for NYS and California licensure and a UK degree seems to fit the bill. However, the respective licensing bodies won't explicitly state whether a British doctorate is acceptable.

 

Blogger Stephanie said ... (7/09/2008) : 

to david eddie - id love to know what you find out about this....

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10/03/2008) : 

They DIDN'T Say the Psychologist isn't a "Doctor" they just said not a Medical Doctor.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1/01/2009) : 

Hi,

I was just browsing and you have very useful
information.
Also I am a psychology student in México about to graduate and I want to continue in the US, but I do not know where to start!
I would like to become a clinical psychologist so if you have more useful information I'm glad to hear it!

Thank you!

 

Anonymous FuturePsychDoc said ... (1/09/2009) : 

I googled upon your site decided I must correct you on the following issues: First, clinical psychologists CANNOT hold an MA. To be called a clinical psychologist, you must possess a PhD or PsyD. No lesser degree qualifies, period. Secondly, modern psychology is increasingly making the "practice" of psychiatry obsolete. In my experience, it is quality trained psychologists and other medical doctors (pediatricians, neurologists etc.) who do not respect psychiatrists. The running joke is that the psychiatrist was too weak a student to become a physician or a psychologist, so they decided to do a residency after the fact. I am currently a third year doctor of psychology (PsyD) student at a big east university in New York. I've spent countless classroom, fieldwork and practicum hours studying behavior, learning, brain and personality development, thought processes as well as practicing the tedious skill of assessing and diagnosing learning disorders, cognitive strengths and weaknesses, mental illnesses etc. I don't mean to offend, but the reality is (at least in New York) that today psychiatrists do little more than write prescriptions. They no longer see patients and have little to no training in cognitive functioning and assessment using modern psychological tests and assessment tools. In fact most medical schools in New York still teach Freudian psychoanalysis, which hasn't been taught in serious psychological institutions in decades. However, because of the supremely old and powerful medical lobby, psychiatrists are able to keep their profitable "niches" by prescribing psychotropic drugs, which even the researchers know very little about (scary). Truth is, the MD degree is older, and has more political clout than newer, more specialized doctors. As a result, we are and will continue to fight for equitable pay in Washington.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1/27/2009) : 

In response to FuturePsychDoc: I am glad i came across your post because, although you may find this strange, i found your words to be quite inspiring. A couple months ago i finished the first year of my psyche degree (im planning to become a psychologist also) and have been browsing the differences in salary between psychologists and psychiatrists. And i cant believe that earnings of a psychiatrist are more than double that of a psychologist. Here in Australia i need to study for 8-9 years to obtain a PhD in clinical psyche. How can an MD who has studied the mind for half that amount of time be more qualified to prescribe drugs to treat psychological conditions?? I have thought about changing my degree to become a psychiatrist for the obvious pay benifits, but i can not agree with the way most drugs are prescribed these days (eg. out of the several people i know who are taking anti-depressants not one has been tested for a chemical imbalance, and only one receives any form of counselling to complement her drugs). I wish you the best of luck in your fight for equal pay, and as soon as i have done enough study for my words to have some weight i will be campaigning for the same cause.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5/31/2009) : 

To FuturePsychDoc:
I found your post very inspiring too. I have never thought about being a psychologist before. I'm still wandering around after my bachelor to see what grad school I should go for. I am not a big fan of MD throwing prescriptions at their patients. I don't like the idea of abusing drugs to get better psychologically. About the earnings of psychologists and MD's, I would just say that forget about those materialistic things and be whoever you choose to be. Money will come when you find your passion for your work.

 

Blogger George said ... (7/12/2009) : 

In response to FuturePsychDoc: Thank you for your commitment to fight for equal pay for clinical psychologists. I'm from Texas and one good example is the Our Lady of the Lake University accepts students into their PsyD program requiring them to have Masters, then train them for 5 to 7 years, then supervised practice (for at least 2 years) before licensure. Yet clinical psychologists in TX are still not permitted to prescribe psychoactive medications. I'm finishing up my Masters in clinical psy and will join the fight for prescription priviledges for PsyD/PhD for clinical psychologists while I'm getting my PsyD hopefully at OLLU.

In terms of difference in salary, I believe it is due to society still generally believes in quick-fixes: get sick, get in, and get out. Apparently that's not human nature as psychopathology can be very deep-seated... but then results of psychologist's treatment cannot be easily quantifiable. Besides, I must say that there are some "bad apples" psychologists out there that deviate from science/evidence-based practice giving the impression that our profession is simply glorified guesswork.

I still think that clinical psychology is a noble profession that can truly bring about betterment in people's quality of life.

 

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